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 Post subject: cam change ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:25 am 
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if i were to change cams from a w110 to a w120 would i have to change pushrod length to keep the proper geometry?

im thinking yes, but i may be overthinking it :?

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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
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I HOPE you aint fixin to ruin RWB are you? 8)

NO, you shouldnt have to change the pushrods.


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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
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What's wrong with it like it is? I don't think it will run any better if you change the cam unless it is not the rwb buggy, the fk-series are the good ones nowadays and the fk-43 is darn close to the 110 cam as far as the specs goes.

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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
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I wouldn't change out a 110 cam in a woodsbuggy!


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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
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Nooooooooo way, keep with the 110.

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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:20 am 
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Change it!! :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
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If it isnt broke dont fix it!!!!! what are you looking to gain out of it? it looks like it a job to hold on to that thing the way it is :twisted: :twisted: :mrgreen: But anyway the pushrods will not change.


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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:16 pm 
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you could always save some time and change rockers. Some people on here may not believe it, but there are other cams besides a w-110 on the market. I've been thrilled with my fk-43 and fk-44 cams.

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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
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RaceBugg1098 wrote:
you could always save some time and change rockers.


what rockers you suggest, its already got 1.4 rockers, maybe a 1.5 but not sure if it change enough to tell the difference?

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What 1.4's do you have? Pauter makes a 1.5 roller, but they are pricey

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and for everbody thats worried about rwb, NO i aint touching the motor on it, im just working on another "little" project motor that i want to have a little more topend than rwb has but still have enough bottom end to use it in the woods if i have to

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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:55 pm 
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RaceBugg1098 wrote:
What 1.4's do you have? Pauter makes a 1.5 roller, but they are pricey


rwb has pauter 1.4's this other motor has the scat "paddle foot" 1.4's

how would changing to the 1.5's change it given everthing else stays the same?

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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
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The older scat 1.4's actually lift around 1.45, so 1.5's wouldn't do alot. My old race motor has an fk-44 in it and makes good power down low and quits making power around 5500 rpm (on the dyno). It has all the torque you need for general woods riding and then some.

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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
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RaceBugg1098 wrote:
you could always save some time and change rockers. Some people on here may not believe it, but there are other cams besides a w-110 on the market. I've been thrilled with my fk-43 and fk-44 cams.


I'm running a FK-8 and 1.4 rockers i like it. response is good!!! :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:48 pm 
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I DON'T THINK THAT THE 1.5'S WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON TOPEND. I ALWAYS THOUGHT MORE LIFT MADE MORE POWER BUT DID NOT AFFECT YOUR RPM RANGE. I THOUGHT THAT WAS ALL IN THE CAM. JUST MY OPINION AND IT COULD BE WRONG. I'M RUNNING A ENGLE 120 WITH 1.25 ROCKERS AND IT HAS ALL THE TOP AND BOTTOM END THAT I WANT. I DO ONLY RUN A SINGLE CARB,IF I RAN DUALS I GUESS THE RPM RANGE WOULD GO UP WITH THE EXTRA BREATHING ABILITY. I THINK IT IS ACTION IMPORTS WEBSITE HAS A EXCELLENT CAM CHART UNDER THE TECHNICAL LINK. AND ALL YA'LL KENTUCKY BOYS NEED TO GET OUT OF YOUR ENGLE 110 SIZE SHELLS :!: HA HA HA HA :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
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jon williams wrote:
ALL YA'LL KENTUCKY BOYS NEED TO GET OUT OF YOUR ENGLE 110 SIZE SHELLS :!: HA HA HA HA :lol: :lol: :lol:

Who runs a 110?? Thats just what we tell everybody we run. :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:


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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
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THAT SOUNDS MORE LIKE IT :roll:

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I'm running a top secret cam :roll: :roll: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
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Baddvw wrote:
What's wrong with it like it is? I don't think it will run any better if you change the cam unless it is not the rwb buggy, the fk-series are the good ones nowadays and the fk-43 is darn close to the 110 cam as far as the specs goes.


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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:09 pm 
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Chris do you really think they are gunna tell you what they run. What I heard about the proven grounds this weekend the Kentucky Motors wouldnt shake a stick at the Bama boys. Maybe you need to ask around here. Think about it a engle 110 is made for a small to medium displacement motor. This will give you goobs of boottom end but very little top end. I ran a 110 in my motor I have now with ratio rockers and it sucked. After about 6000rpm it quit pullin. The cam I have now puts that 110 to shame. I will pm you with the specs. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll:


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kevin f wrote:
Chris do you really think they are gunna tell you what they run. What I heard about the proven grounds this weekend the Kentucky Motors wouldnt shake a stick at the Bama boys. Maybe you need to ask around here. Think about it a engle 110 is made for a small to medium displacement motor. This will give you goobs of boottom end but very little top end. I ran a 110 in my motor I have now with ratio rockers and it sucked. After about 6000rpm it quit pullin. The cam I have now puts that 110 to shame. I will pm you with the specs. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll:

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Pull the pump outta RWB. Whaddya see?

Proving grounds? Drag strip? I guarantee the AL motors whipped butt! Prolly the AL 4:56 R&Ps did the whippin. A stock geared buggy will spank mine in a drag race. Who cares though? I aint got a VW drag car....(not yet, waiting on time to work it some more, but it will have to stay on the blacktop) 8) 8)


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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:59 pm 
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Thats what I dont understand. Why put a gear stack tranny together if a stock gear box is gunna give you more wheel speed. To me its a lot cheaper to build a motor to give the performance your looking for. In a VW motor the camshaft is the the heart of the operation, so that part of the built is very critical. Thats just my opinion though. :| :| :| :idea: :idea:


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 Post subject: Re: cam change ?
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kevin f wrote:
What I heard about the proven grounds this weekend the Kentucky Motors wouldnt shake a stick at the Bama boys.


i dont know who you been talking to but they are full of sh!t, if i could have got 3rd :oops: i would have made that bama DRAG motor sweat, cause he only beat me a little over a buggy length and got me off the line also :oops: on top of missing 3rd gear :oops: on top of my buggy weighing over 100lbs more :shock: and me weighing probably 100lbs more :oops: for a total of at least 200 lbs more rolling down the track :roll: and anybody that knows anything about drag racing knows what weight means 8)

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Thanks for clearing that up, Chris! 8)

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