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| Author: | fgrir [ Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Tesla Turbine ? |
Found this interesting turbine while looking up gas turbines. This particular one turns 19k rpm's with just 20 psi of air. Very simple design from 100 years ago. You can run fluids, air, Steam, ect, Through them. Not buggy related but if someone's got a good enough imagination it could be. |
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| Author: | Marine1 [ Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tesla Turbine ? |
You intrested in turbine engines? Cause I build t58-ge-16a helicopter engines for a living, in the Marines. If you wanna know anything, let me know. if I dont know I got friends and books that do. Semper Fi |
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| Author: | fgrir [ Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tesla Turbine ? |
Interested in backyard stuff like in the video, not high dollar stuff like your talking about. I just find it intriguing that someone can get that kind of rpm's out of that simple machine. These guys are making them out of cd's and turning 20k rpm's. Seem's like someone could make one of steel and hook to an exhaust pipe and use that waisted energy for something. |
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| Author: | RailHomie [ Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tesla Turbine ? |
Quote: Seem's like someone could make one of steel and hook to an exhaust pipe and use that waisted energy for something. Hmm....sounds a bit like a turbo to me...  We need to find a good way to convert heat energy into useable mechanical energy in a small package. Heat loss in combustion engines is a huge problem when it comes to efficiency. There are designs for six-stroke engines and such to use heat, but they just aren't good enough yet. |
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| Author: | fgrir [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tesla Turbine ? |
Like a turbo but the plates are smooth so the only thing it's good for is a lot of rpm's and probably not much torque. But they say the turbine is about 40% efficient where as gas engines are below 30%. |
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| Author: | RailHomie [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tesla Turbine ? |
I don't know what can be done with a lot of rpm's but no torque. I'm stumped 
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| Author: | Odyknuck [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tesla Turbine ? |
You would get your Torque by attaching it to a gear box. Would work similar to most 14,000 RPM small CC Jap bikes |
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| Author: | RailHomie [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tesla Turbine ? |
Well, yes, but what are you going to use to spin it? That process has to be pretty efficient as well to make it worth it. Store compressed air? Make steam with heat? If you would use your exhaust, I guess you could run a generator. The only issue with things like this is that the benefit must outweigh the cost. I think that is why we don't see many of these types of things. Turbos make sense because they make your engine more efficient and don't require many external mechanics to make them beneficial. They don't have much torque either, but they spin really fast too, which is why they work. No gearbox required. |
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| Author: | Odyknuck [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tesla Turbine ? |
RailHomie wrote: Well, yes, but what are you going to use to spin it? That process has to be pretty efficient as well to make it worth it. Store compressed air? Make steam with heat? If you would use your exhaust, I guess you could run a generator. The only issue with things like this is that the benefit must outweigh the cost. I think that is why we don't see many of these types of things. Turbos make sense because they make your engine more efficient and don't require many external mechanics to make them beneficial. They don't have much torque either, but they spin really fast too, which is why they work. No gearbox required. I understand what you are saying. We are just talking theroy are we not. The means to power it are as you say, air, steam etc. The Turbo is a different animal. Its purpose is a compressor to force air thru an internal combustion engine at a higher rate than a N/A engine can do. It just so happens that has the exhaust avalableto drive it. |
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| Author: | RailHomie [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tesla Turbine ? |
I know how a turbo works, haha. It seems we are always on different wavelengths and combating eachother. This is starting to turn into a knowledge pissing contest, and I'm pulling out! I think you may have a few years on me, so don't think I'm trying to out-smart you in the future. That's not my intention. 
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| Author: | Odyknuck [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tesla Turbine ? |
I dont feel your trying to out smart me at all nor is it my intension either. Forums are a place to share thoughts and Ideals and thats what we are doing. We dont have to be on the same wavelength. Perhaps there are other people here that may find us entertaining lol. 
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| Author: | countri boy 84 [ Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tesla Turbine ? |
I DO   
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| Author: | Odyknuck [ Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tesla Turbine ? |
countri boy 84 wrote: I DO See heres one allready
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