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Author:  3drinkminimum [ Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:46 am ]
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running a 1915 with a 6 rib.... still has the 32/36 progressive carb... only had it actually out twice other than test and tune at the neighbors... first time was at dbi with terras and wet...obviously driving skill or lack of and terras was an issue.... went to uncut 4ply goodyear vtreads for some grip.... throughout this time i have been gas fouling #2 cylinder regularly with oil blow by on same cylinder... adjusted valves and stuck my choke wide open since it was wireless and not opening before... seems to have helped but when i was at haspin this past weekend everytime i tried to start back out while on a hill, any hill and size or steepness, even dropping the clutch at high rpms it dogged out. like i dropped it in at 200 rpm instead of 5k... still fouled plugs on me too... if i started at the bottom and mashed it it was all good so long as i never let off at all.. dont get me wrong i still got my training wheels on but i thought it was the gearing in the six rib now i am thinking timing and carb. any thoughts? the carb has 16 and 165 jets in it and its a gas friggin guzzler... should i try the carb rebuild i already had and a petronix(still stock points in the 009) and retime it? or is it a another possible issue all together? has tons of power still... but no low end torque at all.... unless i choke slam it from flat ground
Author:  ironhorse [ Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:03 pm ]
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wow its hard to say you may need to check the float level on it because it sounds like to me when you get it on grade it cuts out bad start there and go ahead and check the timing and stuff it just takes a short time
Author:  RaceBugg1098 [ Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:04 pm ]
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The 6-rib isnt helping you out at all. I took my buggy out once with a 6-rib and a 1915 and decided it was time to build a bigger motor. You could have a couple things adding up to your problem. stuck float, mis adjusted float level, weak ignition (due to bad wires), or any number of other things. I'd start with the float or fuel pressure.
Author:  RaceBugg1098 [ Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:05 pm ]
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ya beat me to it ironhorse!
Author:  ironhorse [ Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:17 pm ]
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sorry bout that but those carbs are bad for the floats sticking and moving around
Author:  3drinkminimum [ Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:25 pm ]
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new plugs wires cap and 5800 cut out button.... dont get me wrong its my first rail so i know the combo isnt great of a 1915 and 6rib... but its easier to build the 1915 to 2332 than a 1641 to 2332 imo which is my next step after i get the hang of the rail... i am leery of foolin with the carb but if i am opening it up for needle seat or float i might as well put the whole rebuild on it... hell i got the kit when i bought it since it was next on the guys list to do b4 his wife startin nailin the neighbor and he put it up for sale, watchin a beat 1641 and 3 rib walk all over the tight turn trails while i got hemmed up on them about had me puttin it up for sale on here, i guess i will start with carb and work to ignition timing and petronix. it just bogs the heck out on the littlest slope(even the driveway) and wont turn the tires... the 6rib shouldnt have any issue turnin the 31inch vtreads like that should it? i really dont wanna burn up clutches like i know i did this past weekend tryin to figure this out..
Author:  rail1914 [ Wed Mar 23, 2011 1:36 pm ]
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had the same set up for years ran like a bad ass first you need to go to a carb shop and get a spring loaded neddle and seat and rejet the carb the flot level should just cover the jets in the bottom of the bowl and there is a little cover that goes around the top air jets if this is missing it will splash gas up over them and flood out and try a new coil and wires and also cheak acelator pump they clog easy and on top there is a small air hole if it is cloged it will flood out every time
Author:  Dave Winterburn [ Wed Mar 23, 2011 2:29 pm ]
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Don't really know the carb. But it sounds like your getting good advice. Does sound like the floats are to high, also try adding a piece of hose to float bowl vent tube, (if it has one) This can help some carbs with off road flooding issues. Do you have the preheat tubes connected on manifold?
Author:  vw2332 [ Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:01 pm ]
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I would get rid of that carb,and get a 40 or 44 idf that would fix the carb problem.
Author:  ridenrace6 [ Wed Mar 23, 2011 5:22 pm ]
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vw2332 wrote:
I would get rid of that carb,and get a 40 or 44 idf that would fix the carb problem.


this is probably the best advice, i also had a 1915 on my 1st buggy and it had a progressive that ran like crap till i rebuilt it and then it ran pretty good, but i later changed over to a 44 idf and that made a world of difference once i got it jetted right

also o would recommend putting a petronix in asap as that will help out with fouled plugs along with starting a lot more than some folks like to admitt
Author:  Buckmaster [ Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:25 pm ]
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Junk the carb and put in a 3 or 5 rib.Even if you get a new carb or get that one fixed,that 6 rib will get you on a bad hill unless your motor is built to the gills with high compression and a good set of heads.If so you need a set of dual 40mm Dells or 40mm Webers. You should be able to find somebody willing to trade you a 3 or 5 rib and a good single dual for that 6 rib.
Author:  ironhorse [ Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:25 am ]
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i have ran a 6 rib with a 1915 with 36 buckshot and 40 delorto and climbed just about everything i put it on the 1915 should pull the 31s and a 6 rib no problem you will gain 10 -15 horses by swapping to idf and with the pertronix that thing should take you anywhere you point it until you get to the really steep really long stuff
Author:  shadetree [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:04 am ]
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Get rid of that carb. I know guys that were running 1915, 6Rib's with 33's but with single or daul IDF's or dell's. I,ve seen some good progressive carbs but they can make you think your engine is junk. Just my opinion. Hang on to the 6 rib.
Author:  davehix [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:59 am ]
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what he said :!: :mrgreen:

shadetree wrote:
Get rid of that carb. I know guys that were running 1915, 6Rib's with 33's but with single or daul IDF's or dell's. I,ve seen some good progressive carbs but they can make you think your engine is junk. Just my opinion. Hang on to the 6 rib.
Author:  fgrir [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:55 pm ]
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I had the same problem years ago and it was a carb/float issue. Also everyone i know that runs haspin is using a 3 rib because the the park is mainly just trail riding with short steep hills.
Author:  jayrod [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:03 pm ]
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Carb is junk lol. I got a 1915 with a 6rib with the progressive that was on it with the 1641 had. The carb basically getscleaned every ride because the slightest bit of dirt in it kills th power jus enough to screw ya with the long gear ratio. Im inthe market or duals. But do like everyone else said juss check everything and recheck clean the carb up real good and adjust everythng correctly. I have no problems with mine on any hills. the clutch is there for a reason haha burn it!
Author:  A. Cole [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:30 pm ]
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Like said, get the motor running good whether its the carb or whatever. At least save the 6 rib, with them getting harder to find and more expensive, keep it. Yeah, the combo isn't the greatest, but it doesn't sound like the main problem. 1915 and a 6 rib should get you by fine at DBI and haspin.
Author:  Buckmaster [ Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:43 pm ]
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i got a set of 45mm Dells that id possibly trade or sale if your interested?
Author:  3drinkminimum [ Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:32 am ]
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Buckmaster wrote:
i got a set of 45mm Dells that id possibly trade or sale if your interested?


i will keep it in mind...in the middle of pullin my house down due to a house fire last october. so i am a little shy on time for anything with the bug. but i still need it ready for harlan memorial weekend. they might be too much work to get finished in time for me right now.. especially with the bug under a tarp 4doors up the road from my house at big70chev's house at the moment

A. Cole wrote:
Like said, get the motor running good whether its the carb or whatever. At least save the 6 rib, with them getting harder to find and more expensive, keep it. Yeah, the combo isn't the greatest, but it doesn't sound like the main problem. 1915 and a 6 rib should get you by fine at DBI and haspin.


figured as much.. i figure i can either regear the 6rib later when doin a superdiff or run babychains with it once i get passed the capabilities of the combo...or go 2332... it was bad at haspin though.. i was having to drop it in gear at 5k and get 3 foot and bog out then do it again...unless it was a fairly straight shot or able to be done with the cutters... at which point i figured the wheel speed from the tall gears was gonna help anyways... will get on it asap and sure i will be back on here when i f up the carb rebuild....lol
Author:  BiggHemi [ Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:51 am ]
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I've got the same set up on mine except I've got a 40 or 44 Webber and it does the same thing The OP said hos was doing but my question is how do I adjust the floats. I bought the buggy 2 weeks ago. And when I drove it the first time it ran good but started overloading and got so bad it didn't want to run
I pulled the Carb off and cleaned it and now it don't want to idle and runs good on the flats but when I get it on an incline it just floods out and takes a fee minutes to start back up
I don't know anything about VWs I just always wanted one so here I am
Author:  badbrad [ Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:55 am ]
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I would change get rid of that progressive and as far as the 6 rib goes dont get rid of it. Chances of finding another one is getting slim. And if you are planning on building a 2332 your not gonna want a 3 or a 5rib geared way to low with 31's.
Author:  Wanted_Fugitive [ Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:01 pm ]
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I got a good 3 rib tranny if you want one. I'll swap you for the 6 rib if your interested. :mrgreen:
Author:  Dee Ell [ Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:14 pm ]
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Put a 5.43 ring an pinion in that 091 ,but keep the 4.56 until you build a stroker motor.
Author:  2800passat [ Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:01 pm ]
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stop it. You have a cylinder dying on ya. When you put it under a load and the umph aint like it used to be that is the 1st signal to fresh up the rings. Listen to what your motor is trying to tell you.You may do a comp check and it reads good but it may be so dmm full of oil that the comp reads like 1 of the others. Your dripping oily plugs may be trying to tell you something .I bought an air cooled 2180 buggy last week because I was drunk. I drove it today and raced it back home to get into my violent w/c and came back down the hiway turned into the woods and only the word of the Almighty could stop it. It pasted my hair and I slide up to the crowd idling at 170 degrees.It stays at 170 all day!!!
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