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| Author: | D. Marks [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Tube notching. |
Does anyone have a good way of figuring out how to notch or fishmouth a piece of tubing? I have a tubing notcher but it doesn't allow a very sharp angle. |
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| Author: | Odyknuck [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
Here is a link I found awhile back on calaculating on mitre joints: http://www.metalgeek.com/static/cope.pcgi When I was modifiying my new Buggy frame I used an contour gauge. Its the one with about 100 wires that conform to a shape. Some I just eyed up and cut. |
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| Author: | RaceBugg1098 [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
I built my racecar with a harbor freight notcher, and it worked alright, till it wore out. I just got a JD squared "notch master", and it is amazing. But back to the question, how sharp of an angle are you trying to cut? I think most notchers will cut 50* and more if you take the center bolt out. anything over that, is ALOT of work with a cut-off wheel, grinder, and bandsaw! |
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| Author: | spectater [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
I used a chop saw to make all the notches in my buggy. It works pretty good. |
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| Author: | nickschlemer [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
http://www.vansantent.com/pipemaster.htm These are what i use they work awesome. |
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| Author: | RaceBugg1098 [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
I've got a couple of those pipe masters, and I don't use them very often. They can be a pain in the a$$ to trace out, and by the time you do all that, you can usually just hole-saw it and be done. |
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| Author: | RaceBugg1098 [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 3:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
thats how I used to do it, but the tubing was so thin on my last car, that it would just melt it out |
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| Author: | Buckmaster [ Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
[quote="nickschlemer"]http://www.vansantent.com/pipemaster.htm These are what i use they work awesome.[/quote] Those things are nice,thanks for the info. |
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| Author: | nickschlemer [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
RaceBugg1098 wrote: I've got a couple of those pipe masters, and I don't use them very often. They can be a pain in the a$$ to trace out, and by the time you do all that, you can usually just hole-saw it and be done. Really, I think there the cats ass. I lubed mine up to make them slide a little better and sometimes i have to shape the curve a little by hand but never have a gap to fill like i do when i use my hole saws.. |
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| Author: | ncbuggy [ Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
Try a place called Harbor freight. It works great and around 100 buck can't beat it. |
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
Again, I must be building the poor man buggy. I use the tube from an empty paper towel roll and cut out my pattern with a pair of scissors. Then, using a grinder, try to mirror the shape. It does not always work perfectly but the price is right. Dan |
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| Author: | DVS1 [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
MickeyMouse wrote: Again, I must be building the poor man buggy. I use the tube from an empty paper towel roll and cut out my pattern with a pair of scissors. Then, using a grinder, try to mirror the shape. It does not always work perfectly but the price is right. Dan Poor man buggy? I don't think so. That is a very ingenious idea, simple and cheap. I would have never thought of that. |
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| Author: | nickschlemer [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
MickeyMouse wrote: Again, I must be building the poor man buggy. I use the tube from an empty paper towel roll and cut out my pattern with a pair of scissors. Then, using a grinder, try to mirror the shape. It does not always work perfectly but the price is right. Dan Thats good. I like that idea wish i would have thought of it before i bought the pipemasters.. |
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| Author: | instigator [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
See if this works. its free. http://metalgeek.com/static/cope_custom.pcgi |
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| Author: | RaceBugg1098 [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
one thing is for sure... practice makes perfect! when i was done with my car I could notch anything without thinking about it, first try! |
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| Author: | Odyknuck [ Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
DVS1 wrote: MickeyMouse wrote: Again, I must be building the poor man buggy. I use the tube from an empty paper towel roll and cut out my pattern with a pair of scissors. Then, using a grinder, try to mirror the shape. It does not always work perfectly but the price is right. Dan Poor man buggy? I don't think so. That is a very ingenious idea, simple and cheap. I would have never thought of that. I agree with DVs, thats a great Ideal. your using something thats readly avalable and you would throw it away anyways. |
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| Author: | kendel [ Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
I made a block that monts on my Lathes cross slide to hold the tube then i use a hole saw or roughing end mill works great! |
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| Author: | wankelman [ Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
hello i like this new fab section. this is my first time posting on here. and i would like it if you would be so kind as to whigh in on my project first time build on a woodbuggy and i have been putting it on youtube. it has some tube notching that you might find useful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFzRMoZf-Bk |
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| Author: | JeffClay [ Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
thats really neat wankelman..... great thinking! |
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| Author: | MickeyMouse [ Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
Great Idea.... That is awesome... |
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| Author: | RaceBugg1098 [ Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
thats pretty cool, man |
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| Author: | CatRunner [ Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
I had no idea there was all these frame building info on youtube...... great stuff! |
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| Author: | Griffin [ Sun Nov 09, 2008 1:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Tube notching. |
If you have access to a knee mill(bridgeport) you can use it to notch tubing. The holesaw arbor I have is 3/4 dia below the hex part. You can grab it with a 3/4 collet. Then set your vise up to one end of the table. This lets you move the table around to position the tubing. The great thing about this is it lets you take off just a tiny bit at a time. It's so much more rigid than the regular holesaw notchers that the cut is truely straight and it really fits very well with no grinding. You can also notch in the middle of a bend. John |
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