Lol, yours was the posterchild i had in mind
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| Author: | nitro_mudder [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
Seems like alot of us new guys want to know what to build and we hear alot of debate on these two deffinitions. So I have come up with some deffinitions in my opinion of what each is. I'm sure there will be some debate and tweeking of the deffinitions. comp buggy = focus on parts is to add performance while keeping weight at a minimum Trail buggy = focus on parts is to add duribility a comp buggy will go anywhere a good trail buggy will, but not designed to handle the abuse for as long of a duration on some components a good trail buggy will climb most of the hills a comp buggy will, but typically not as quickly due to weight |
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| Author: | A. Cole [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
I think they carry alot of the same components. Mine is definently a trail buggy if it were between comp or trail. For heavins sake its a 4-seater. With that said I made the priorities comfort... suspension seats, long travel arms, coil overs among others. |
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| Author: | nitro_mudder [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
A. Cole wrote: I think they carry alot of the same components. Mine is definently a trail buggy if it were between comp or trail. For heavins sake its a 4-seater. With that said I made the priorities comfort... suspension seats, long travel arms, coil overs among others. Ya but I added a heavy duty power steering box for trail riding, heavy duty front combos, little things like that that will not add performance as much as durribility. A good weekend ride we get maybe 12 hrs of ridding in. A good comp u have 3 or 4 passes. |
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| Author: | bruce 1 [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
nitro_mudder wrote: Seems like alot of us new guys want to know what to build and we hear alot of debate on these two deffinitions. So I have come up with some deffinitions in my opinion of what each is. I'm sure there will be some debate and tweeking of the deffinitions. comp buggy = focus on parts is to add performance while keeping weight at a minimum Trail buggy = focus on parts is to add duribility a comp buggy will go anywhere a good trail buggy will, but not designed to handle the abuse for as long of a duration on some components a good trail buggy will climb most of the hills a comp buggy will, but typically not as quickly due to weight I sure hope a few of these Comp. buggys come to the hill climbs. I would like to see a few of them. I have never seen one. |
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| Author: | nitro_mudder [ Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
Lol, yours was the posterchild i had in mind
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| Author: | Rick [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 8:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
nitro_mudder wrote: Lol, yours was the posterchild i had in mind x2
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
I sure am glad some one BRAGED on Bruce We would hate to see him making up new screen names and braging on him self AGAIN 
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| Author: | RaceBugg1098 [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
rockrockets1 wrote: I sure am glad some one BRAGED on Bruce We would hate to see him making up new screen names and braging on him self AGAIN 
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| Author: | bruce 1 [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
rockrockets1 wrote: I sure am glad some one BRAGED on Bruce We would hate to see him making up new screen names and braging on him self AGAIN Just Like you there rock-o how many do you have???? Hell you and yours, told me how to do it. |
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| Author: | bruce 1 [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
nitro_mudder wrote: Lol, yours was the posterchild i had in mind No mine has lots of stock stuff on it it is not a competition only buggy. I even run a stock clutch cable. But it will take me where I want to go. |
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| Author: | nitro_mudder [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
Now both of you. It's not braggin if you can back it up. Then its just cocky. Which I'm ok with too.
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| Author: | bruce 1 [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
nitro_mudder wrote: Now both of you. It's not braggin if you can back it up. Then its just cocky. Which I'm ok with too. Good deal See you soon. I do not think Rocky likes me. I think I am going to cry. boo--hoo. 
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| Author: | nitro_mudder [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
And what "I" think of as a comp buggy would run alot of stock VW front end parts. They are the lightest out there. But so far every part on mine that has broken on the trails has been stock VW. With the exception of a real thin set of aluminum front rims, and a cheep set of switches.
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| Author: | bruce 1 [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
Maybe you just got some bad stuff. I have never had any problems with the stock German stuff. |
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| Author: | nitro_mudder [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
bruce 1 wrote: Maybe you just got some bad stuff. I have never had any problems with the stock German stuff. Hard to know what the life of parts were over all those decades too. And dont get me wrong, nothing against what I call a COMP BUGGY. Just seems that weight is the main priority, because it does mean a better climber. Where as what I would call a built trail buggy, weight is not as important as stronger more durable parts which tend to weigh more. Also comfort for long riding seems to play a larger role. Both have heavy duty drivetrain parts, and traction is esential. But look at areas like the front end. My heavy duty power steering and front spindles are very heavy, but much more durable then stock. Neither of which adds any performance but takes it away instead. In trade it gives me comfort and a little bit of peace of mind in the woods. With my boat anchor I'm not in the running to win any contest, but it does great on the trails and climbs all the hills that I have the stones to try  Not to mention it is the most comfortable vehicle I've ever ridden in off-road.Back to my point of this thread. I see guys on here asking what they should build. I thought I would see if we could clarify the differences a little bit. |
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| Author: | wildwillie [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
i dont think you are thinking the same way we are if its light its strong im running alum.trailing arms and iv put them thrue hell and never bent one but iv seen lots of steel ones bend.we could take two buggys to the top of a hill 1compbuggy as yall call them and 1 trail buggy roll them off and see what one has the most damage . we could use bruce's as the comp buggy and rock's as the trailbuggy
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| Author: | railridernky [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
bruce 1 wrote: nitro_mudder wrote: Now both of you. It's not braggin if you can back it up. Then its just cocky. Which I'm ok with too. Good deal See you soon. I do not think Rocky likes me. I think I am going to cry. boo--hoo.   
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| Author: | nitro_mudder [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
wildwillie wrote: i dont think you are thinking the same way we are if its light its strong im running alum.trailing arms and iv put them thrue hell and never bent one but iv seen lots of steel ones bend.we could take two buggys to the top of a hill 1compbuggy as yall call them and 1 trail buggy roll them off and see what one has the most damage . we could use bruce's as the comp buggy and rock's as the trailbuggy Lighter weight = less stress on the parts. I'm game for that demo, let me know where I can watch it! Nice to see ya back on here Willie. |
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| Author: | gustograber [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
i think yall forgot about the most important buggy, the beer hauler, it can be heavy and weak or light and strong but it will always have a cooler of cold ones and almost always makes it to the first drink stop . and if you run out it will put a grin on your face when they come rolling down the trail!
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| Author: | bruce 1 [ Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
wildwillie wrote: i dont think you are thinking the same way we are if its light its strong im running alum.trailing arms and iv put them thrue hell and never bent one but iv seen lots of steel ones bend.we could take two buggys to the top of a hill 1compbuggy as yall call them and 1 trail buggy roll them off and see what one has the most damage . we could use bruce's as the comp buggy and rock's as the trailbuggy Willie as you know some could not get to the top.  And as I was told Rock-O is a Extreme hill climbing buggy. And mine is just a donut getter.
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| Author: | Rick [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
Mmmmmmm dougnuts |
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| Author: | nitro_mudder [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
Rick wrote: Mmmmmmm dougnuts Great Now I'm hungry
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| Author: | kybuggy1 [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
gustograber wrote: i think yall forgot about the most important buggy, the beer hauler, it can be heavy and weak or light and strong but it will always have a cooler of cold ones and almost always makes it to the first drink stop . and if you run out it will put a grin on your face when they come rolling down the trail!VERY GOOD POINT, Kenny. The "beer hauler buggies" are very often the "spare parts and any tool you'd need buggy", too. Dont know how many times one of these type of buggies have saved me or (someone I was helping) a trip to camp on a strap. Almost as many times as they have saved my buzz when I ran out of refreshments! GOD BLESS the D.O.G.s!! 
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| Author: | kybuggy1 [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
wildwillie wrote: i dont think you are thinking the same way we are if its light its strong im running alum.trailing arms and iv put them thrue hell and never bent one but iv seen lots of steel ones bend.we could take two buggys to the top of a hill 1compbuggy as yall call them and 1 trail buggy roll them off and see what one has the most damage . we could use bruce's as the comp buggy and rock's as the trailbuggy I agree. Dont confuse a KY buggy as being a competition only buggy, Metz. Their "formula" was derived way before any organized climbing competitions were thought of. They get trail rode as much or more than any buggy. I dont think there has been a woodsbuggy built in KY yet with only the hillclimb comps in mind. Like you said yerself, less weight is less stress. My two seater was built with sturdiness in mind rather than weight savings. It broke stuff way more often than my single seater does, and it didnt get put thru 1/3 of the abuse. |
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Comp Buggy Vs Trail Buggy |
Now tell me guys if we are standing at the bottom of a hill and only one climbs it and the other says NOT THIS TIME ,,,,Well then who was at5 the top  Bruce you had your chance to out climb me and you DECLINED said some shit about a 95-5 hill |
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