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I KEEP BURNING UP IGNITERS
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Author:  jackson.ryan29 [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:01 pm ]
Post subject:  I KEEP BURNING UP IGNITERS
IVE GONE THROW 4 IGNITERS IN A MOUNTH AND I CANT FIGURE OUT WAT IS BURNING THEM UP IVE CHANGED COILS ALL MY WIRING SWITCHS GROUNDS EVERTHING NEED SUM HELP
Author:  Firebug [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:13 pm ]
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More info..is it AC, or ? Petronix? Is the wiring good and corect? sounds like a short or bad ground.
Author:  jackson.ryan29 [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:38 pm ]
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Firebug wrote:
More info..is it AC, or ? Petronix? Is the wiring good and corect? sounds like a short or bad ground.
Author:  jackson.ryan29 [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:40 pm ]
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jackson.ryan29 wrote:
Firebug wrote:
More info..is it AC, or ? Petronix? Is the wiring good and corect? sounds like a short or bad ground.

i dont know wat a ac or petronix is but do i need a ground from the coil to frame or body ground
Author:  Firebug [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:43 pm ]
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jackson.ryan29 wrote:
jackson.ryan29 wrote:
Firebug wrote:
More info..is it AC, or ? Petronix? Is the wiring good and corect? sounds like a short or bad ground.

i dont know wat a ac or petronix is but do i need a ground from the coil to frame or body ground


AC = air cooled
Petronix is electronic ignition
Ground is most important.
Author:  jackson.ryan29 [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:55 pm ]
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AC = air cooled
Petronix is electronic ignition
Ground is most important.[/quote]
air cooled yes
and it is a electronic ignition
an it doesnt have a gound other than the one that goes to the pick up in the dis.
Author:  purplerail [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:18 pm ]
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what kind of coil do you run???
Author:  jackson.ryan29 [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:32 pm ]
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purplerail wrote:
what kind of coil do you run???

I had a accel super stock on first two than msd blast 2 on one and now just a plain Jaine 12 volt mopar coil
Author:  purplerail [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:44 pm ]
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accel and blasters dont play well with ignitors get a blue coil
Author:  ridenrace6 [ Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:59 pm ]
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purplerail wrote:
accel and blasters dont play well with ignitors get a blue coil


^^^^^^^^^^^correct

and the neg. on the coil only goes to the black wire from the distributor and NOT to any other ground but it used as the signal source for a tach if you happen to have one of them
Author:  jackson.ryan29 [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:34 am ]
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so a blue coil would be the bosch coil
Author:  kybuggy1 [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:23 am ]
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jackson.ryan29 wrote:
so a blue coil would be the bosch coil


Yep. Purple is right on with this one.
Author:  jackson.ryan29 [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:54 pm ]
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Ok so would it be ok to run a blue coil and a empi pick up cuz I'm realy tired of droping a hundred dollars a pop on these things and this will make the 4 th or 5 th one
Author:  hillaholic [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:46 pm ]
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I would buy a Petronix. I think they have a 30 month warranty.

Also you need to run a ballast resistor with some of the electronic ignitions and a high voltage coil.
Author:  turboblue [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:42 pm ]
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There is more than 1 blue coil.
You need the one that has 2.8-3.2 oms resistance.

If you are paying $100 for an Ignitor you are getting hosed.
Author:  jackson.ryan29 [ Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:38 pm ]
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turboblue wrote:
There is more than 1 blue coil.
You need the one that has 2.8-3.2 oms resistance.

If you are paying $100 for an Ignitor you are getting hosed.

realy they are a 128 with tax than 12.95 to ship them and yes my ass is chaped and jim a t jims custom vw told me to run the the bosch bule coil the better one of the two and the empi pick and i should never have another problem hopefuly :(
Author:  turboblue [ Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:40 pm ]
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jackson.ryan29 wrote:
turboblue wrote:
There is more than 1 blue coil.
You need the one that has 2.8-3.2 oms resistance.

If you are paying $100 for an Ignitor you are getting hosed.

realy they are a 128 with tax than 12.95 to ship them and yes my ass is chaped and jim a t jims custom vw told me to run the the bosch bule coil the better one of the two and the empi pick and i should never have another problem hopefuly :(


OK you gotta use some punctiation so I can decifer this.
You are paying $128 + $12.95 for shipping for an Ignitor points conversion kit?
1847A is the common part number for a Bosch 009 kit.
Is that what you are getting?

The coil you need to use has to have the 2.8-3.2 ohms of resistance.
There are several "Blue" coils. Check yours to be sure.
What is an Empi "pick"?
Author:  Odyknuck [ Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:44 pm ]
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WOW! 140 bucks for a 40 dollar EMPI electronics points eliminater?
Author:  gasman [ Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:44 pm ]
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if your paying that much your ass is more than chapped.and i think they are two types of pertronix one is a 4 ohm and one is an 8 ohm i think,but make sure the coil matches the type of ignition,you can buy a complete 009 distributor and pertronix with a coil for what your paying.chad :mrgreen:
Author:  jackson.ryan29 [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:06 am ]
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Ok 109 for the compfires I've been buying but Jim at Jims custom vws set me up today with the right coil and a empi intitor running good than it's out of time now when I changed that do I have to rest my timeing sorry about all the spelling I'm on my iPhone and it blows
Author:  turboblue [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:18 pm ]
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jackson.ryan29 wrote:
Ok 109 for the compfires I've been buying but Jim at Jims custom vws set me up today with the right coil and a empi intitor running good than it's out of time now when I changed that do I have to rest my timeing sorry about all the spelling I'm on my iPhone and it blows



Anytime you change any part of the ignition system it is a good idea to check/reset the timing.
One other thing, put your points, condenser and a screwdriver in a bag under your passenger seat cover.
If the EMPI module fails at least you can trail fix it.

FWIW, this is the module I use and sell now.
One failure out of 35 I've bought in year or so.
Was replaced with no issues.
http://www.compu-tronix.com/VW009.htm
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