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| Author: | The Wild Kids [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | changing from 3 rib to 091 have questions |
I am going to pick up a 091 6 rib on Tuesday of next week after the ride at the creek. I have a 3rib now in my rail, what differences will I have in installing the 091? Differences in length, shifter rod placement and so forth? I know that 1st is going to be a big difference over the 3rib gearing but will give me the wheel speed to climb with. Also be better to go to the stick O matic later on. I am trading my 3 rib in on the 091 so it won't be for sale sorry. The Wild Kids |
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| Author: | Firebug [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:55 am ] |
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I did the swap this past summer. In my case I kept the 3 rib bell housing .This allowed me to use the existing starter. The throw out bearing holder isn't as beefy on the 3 rib as the 6 rib but I had no problems with it so I kept it. The tranny is longer so I removed the front tranny mount from the torsion and ground about a half inch off and welded it back on. Of course the shifter rod had to be shortened but I had an adjustable end on it and just enough adjustment . If you do not move the front mount forward then you need to space the rear mount. This is confusing but you will see what I mean when you do the swap. I needed to move the front forward because my exhaust was already tight in the back. Keeping the weight forward is important for balance anyway. See you at the creek. |
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:23 am ] |
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and you have to shorten the main shaft if you change bell housing don't ya |
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| Author: | kybuggy1 [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:42 am ] |
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[quote='rockrockets1']and you have to shorten the main shaft if you change bell housing don't ya It depends on which gland nut you run. I think with a chromoly one from CB, you have to shorten the main shaft about 1/4", then kind of round it off a little with a grinder. But the Scat has a bigger ID on the bearing (or somethin other When I switched over on my old two seater, I |
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| Author: | Roy [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:42 am ] |
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[quote='rockrockets1']and you have to shorten the main shaft if you change bell housing don't ya Yes. You will need to grind off about 1/4" from the input shaft, not the mainshaft. |
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| Author: | Firebug [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:46 am ] |
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I got lucky I guess. I did not have to shorten the mainshaft. It is a little more work to move the front mount forward but it eliminates spacers and keeps a little more weight forward . Toss up. |
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| Author: | The Wild Kids [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:26 am ] |
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Thanks guys, so really nothing to serious just a days work all together then. See you at the creek I hope you can make it up. The Wild Kids |
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| Author: | Baddvw [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:30 pm ] |
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what I do know about going from a 3-rib to a 6-rib, that the overall length is 3/4" longer. |
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| Author: | The Wild Kids [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:40 pm ] |
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I have room in the rear for it and talked to Larry today about it and it has the nose cone and bell housing already on it ready to go. I am running Buckshot P's (32"?) How will that affect me? Thanks The Wild Kids |
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| Author: | Firebug [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:50 pm ] |
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When I went from 3 rib to 6 rib I missed the 538 r&p. However I noticed I could do about as well climbing. It seemed the engine was bogging but the Subaru lugged pretty good. Some folks put 542 r&p in the 091 and have a strong tranny and low gearing too. My buggy is heavy expecially with the subaru engine and I feel I would rather have 538 gearing but I am tired of breaking 3 ribs. oh yea , I am running bogger 35's |
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| Author: | Stevo [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:08 pm ] |
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does anybody have a ring gear for 542 ring and pinion set?? I have a tooth broken in mine |
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| Author: | The Wild Kids [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:26 pm ] |
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I was told that the trail riding would suffer some on take off really but that it would be great for the hills and getting the wheel speed. I should have asked what the gearing was but I didn't probably stock gears. The Wild Kids |
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| Author: | rockrockets1 [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:28 am ] |
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firebug what you do is leave the 4/56 ring & pinion change 1st gear to a lower gear |
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| Author: | Firebug [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:42 am ] |
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Rockette,,, I understand that those aint cheap and are weaker. Unless the aftermarket are a whole lot stronger. I seem to be the only one with that problem,,,the lighter bugs with smaller tires seem to love the 456. |
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| Author: | gustograber [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:07 am ] |
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when i bought my new frame last fall from toni bagley ( owner of beeline ) and went to pick it up i asked him why he put spacers on the end of the horns. he told me thats why he ask me if i was going to run a six rib and extend trailing arms and by extending the horns it put the weight back where it needed to be, on the back tires & inproved the stearing at the same time. |
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| Author: | The Wild Kids [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:46 am ] |
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Well I won't be going to the 6 rib, damn thing was sold out from under me. A little bit pissed off about it to be honest, twice now it has happened on different things in the past two months. Hell with it, I'll ride with my 3 rib. The Wild Kids |
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| Author: | harleyhunter05 [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:41 pm ] |
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sorry to hear that---ihad a guy i used to work with steal a whole bus out from under me |
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